Im not sure im quite understanding either of your posts, perhaps my country is different with children????????

I have children and let them be free and express themselves and i wouldnt call them naughty at all.....

so im thinking this is a cross cultural thing. Im not talking about walking down aisles and knocking everything over, im talking about laughing with friends and playing catch me and peek a boo......

very very strange... im glad im here in this case.

even so, i think that the parents may just have problems of their own interferring with their ability to properly look after the children in this "ideal picture" i mean i know i work fulltime and study fulltime as well as have two young children, sometimes if im tired and my kids make a little noise i cant care less what others think, if they dont like it come over and help me cook dinner one night after a long day working handing in three assignments and making a presentation....

then again this isnt a parenting thread so ill stop now...

besides all this i think mums are very attractive and popping kids out of adoption agencies dosent nearly verify your womanhood as much as popping them out of your vagina MUCH RESPECT to all mums.

im going to see it today. just look for pee wee in the theatre. ill be the creapy guy in the corner, look for me!